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The things people say!

We have been following developments over the last week or so as the amazingly talentless Lady Ravin Babble-on announced recently that our blog here had been removed; as we haven’t been anyware, we quickly caught on.

More lies from her lips… will she ever get a life?

No we don’t think so either.

The evidence:

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The Cole Debacle

Recent events with Raven Avalon makes us wonder just how much of her material is just a pile of lies.

Back in the end of December, RA started changing her name on her websites, and on her books.  The name Isadora (Raven Avalon) Cole started to appear everywhere.

There was a statement placed on her Facebook page as well, citing her supposed lineage.  Perhaps this was in response to the questions that were asked about her background by the Bustin’ Chops Blog, we really do not know.

We thought this rather curious, because the Coven Ouroborous et Ova, which is no longer in existence, was also the coven of Donna Cole Schultz.  How curious that her name would also take a change at this point to Cole as well.

We made some very discrete inquiries into her membership.  We received some very interesting replies.

As you can see, she got bolder.  Now she was claiming that Ms. Cole was her grandmother.  We looked further, and then sent out public inquiries late last month.

What alerted us to the possibility that she was bogus was the date of Ms. Cole-Schultz’ death. Ms. Schultz dies in 2004.  Obits are posted all over the web.

RA’s books appeared with her new name on them as well.  And then suddenly, the books were disappearing, and reappearing without the Cole name attached!



I found an obit on the web for Ms. Donna Cole-Schultz.

Schultz, Donna C.

April 01, 2004

Donna Cole Schultz, beloved wife of Robert Schultz; daughter of the late Sally and Arthur Weiss; mother of four cats. Donations can be made to any animal welfare organization. For information of memorial service call 773-525-9194 .

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As you can see, the obit does not mention children, other than her cats.  Again, we are puzzled.



The material she posted with her Cole name started disappearing, going back to Raven Avalon.  BTW, if anyone knows where she snatched that little photo up there, do let us know.  I suspect it was scanned from a magazine, the moray pattern of the print ink shows badly.


She was not too coordinated in her attempt to backtrack her work.  The Facebook pages appeared to be a jumble of quick edits and changes to try to hide what she had done.


This scenario is reminiscent of the change over from the Rochelle Moore name to the Raven Avalon name.  She reused websites and photographs that were clearly used by Rochelle Moore, to the point where they could be backtracked to photographers releases for use.  And she has reused Rochelle Moores books and tried to pass them off as her own. See the Chops blog for that whole story. We have copies of both the Guidebook as well as the Magick for the New Witch & Wiccan which are pretty much the same book with very minor changes to the content.  Very minor.

Raven Avalon may have tried to cover this up once we started asking publically for verification of her claims.  But what she has done on all on her own is to prove that the claims were false, or else she still would have the Cole name attached to her work and her Facebook pages.  I believe she is attempting to cover up this whole affair because it is a major failure to try to establish credentials in the American Pagan Community.  I believe she has no credentials and her actions seem to reflect it.  We are awaiting verification from a credentialing service that has launched inquiries on our behalf to members of the community to validate the claims and we will post those findings when we have them.

And I have to ask a very interesting question… why is she using the American market to establish credentials for her British Coven?  As Bustin’ Chops has pointed out, she has no coven in Britain.   People who are well acquainted with the area she claims to be located in have never heard of her.  People have been asked, local known groups have been contacted, and no one has ever heard of her or her coven.  So, we have some very serious questions that have been asked again and again, and all they can come up with are lies and attempts to deceive the pagan community.

There is more.  Much more.  Stay tuned.  We are working on this even deeper.

Crazy Asshat!


Well that was quick – no sooner than our posts were up and she goes and changed the goal posts, deleting the book and re-adding it again!

Left me speechless it did! :/

Not only that but she is continuing to bash the reviewers on yet another site and she’s nicked our name! :/

Guess it’s true what they’re saying… this crazy asshat doesn’t have an original idea about her!


The latest in Author Etiquette – if You don’t like the reviews, bash the reviewers!

Over the past year or so we have been entertained by a certain witch author.  Most of the history is available on the Official Chops Blog.  The material for her books is taken from other copyrighted authors books and from websites all over the web.  It is well documented on Chops. No, we don’t make things up – we don’t have to.  All the evidence stands.

What is interesting is she has now taken to bashing reviewers.  She uses the comments area for each of the reviewers to bash these reviewers in public.  Talk about looking desperate.  After all, it is the reviewers who sussed out her latest book as being a remake of her older and still plagiarized material.  She does claim she has “updated” the volume, however inspection of the available “Look Inside” feature shows that while the book may be formatted a bit better than the last volume, all that appears to be changed are the credits to this woman.  To quote one of the reviewers:

“…the introductions are exactly the same… except for some formatting. Oh, wait, it says in the first book, issued in 2011 – “It has evolved over thirty five years of experience of practical Magick which is primarily based on first hand experience.” The new version says “It has evolved over fifty years of experience of practical Magick which is primarily based on first hand experience.” You got fifteen more years of experience since last year? Now that’s magick!”

The reviewer admits that she has the first book.  However, she has only compared the content of the first book to the material available in the “Look Inside” feature of the second book.  To her credit, she only comments on what she can see.  Quite frankly, I don’t blame her.  I would not want to be accused of purchasing a book that contains mostly stolen copyrighted material from other authors.

The second reviewer took some heat as well.  After a very distasteful comment from the author, the reviewer writes some passages from the book, along with citing the sources – a book by Eileen Holland, a Llewellyn publication that is still under copyright.

The author replies:

“sites included and cited during a new witches journey incude The Wicca Handbook by Eileen Holland, Aleister Crowley: Wicca for the Rest of Us, Aleister Crowley The Book of the Law.
13 Goals of a Witch by Scott Cunningham, Wicca for the Solitary Practitioner by Scott Cunningham
“The Inner Temple of Witchcraft” by Christopher Penczac, The 13 Wiccan Principles Council of American Witches, in April and several other recognised witches”

Please pardon the spelling issues and formatting.  That is copied and pasted directly from the woman’s public comment.  Yes, I can quote public content without copyright issues, as it is “public” and she is a “well known” author.

The fact that the author has copied entire paragraphs, and/or complete works of these authors, all of which are still under copyright by said authors and/or publishers, does not seem to sink into her head.  According to American Copyright laws, you need permissions from the publisher to include actual material from said works.  And knowing the Llewellyn Publisher and their recent work on behalf of some of their authors regarding a website offering their books as give aways, I am sure the permissions for the material in question has not been asked for, nor given.

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By the way, I have to say, I feel sorry for her proofreader.  If this is how this author writes, her proofreader must have a really tough job.

And on the other hand, apparently she is splitting copyright hairs by calling her book a “guidebook” now, so she can get around the copyright violations.  Interesting; did her solicitor advise her to do this?

She has a string of reviews that point out her book as being less than spectacular.  These reviewers point out pretty much the same thing.  It is a rehash of her other book, seems she has yet again changed her name, and the title and the cover.  I say yet again, because it seems this book, and the author, have gone through some interesting name changes and titles over the past couple of years.  But that is another blog posting, most of which can be found on the Official Chops Blog.  But, to keep your attention – look for another post to our blog here to see who is really who – certain evidence has come to the surface – stay tuned!

But back to the reviewers.  Reading the postings by the author, she seems to be throwing out whatever she can to cover her arse.  She accuses the reviewers of all being the same person!  Well, interesting, because a second poster appears in the comments.  And what she says is even more interesting.

Remember this name:  Lillane “Devlin” – it becomes very clear shortly who this person is.  But that is not my story.  What is interesting is what she says.  The first reviewer posts the following:

“You seem to be fond of taking reviews from the Irish Times and using them to promote your own work. I know they are going to be rather upset at that. After all, their reviews are copyrighted as well. Yes, we found the book review you cut and pasted from for the review on your book. Sad, you can’t even write your own reviews.”

And Ms. Lillane replies:

“Yes chops is guilty of putting up a fake review only to even the balance”

If our readers look back a few weeks earlier, there was a “fake chops” page on WordPress, in which people were insulted, harassed and slandered.  WordPress finally took the pages down.  This is evident by the post given by Ms. Lillane with links to a page that WordPress posted stating that said blog was removed for violations of WordPress terms and service.  Talk about self-incrimination.  Is this woman, then, the author of the fake chops page that was so poorly constructed and that butchered the English language?  And is she also the author of the fake reviews for this author’s book?  One would think that comment suggests such!  Looking at the use of grammar and spelling, if you had been unfortunate enough to read the fake chops blog before it was removed; it is not hard to believe that these two people are one in the same!

Tisk, tisk – what has this generation come to, poor English, bad grammar, appalling spelling and ramble on sentences.

But, I digress.  Take a look for yourself, all the wonderful comments that are still left on the book site.  The author did go through this morning and take down many of her raw comments.  Rather smart of her, as her comments were less than stellar.  But more of the same still remains.  She bashes and bashes each of the reviewers, in a less than ladylike manner and, considering her name, only shows how unladylike she is.  And, to be sure, she is not what I would call a “classic example” of an author, or a so called High Priestess of a coven.  Interestingly enough, one of the reviewers mentions that as well.  Where is her coven again?  Seems no one in that area has ever heard of her or her coven.  Well, the answer to that is coming up as well.  Much more has been discovered – so stay tuned!  – Clotho

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